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wouter-- the transport problem for red hook reside...

2006-06-05T19:05:00.000-04:00

wouter-- the transport problem for red hook residens, inc. those in houses east & west, is GREATLY exaggerated. it's not a thrill i agree but lots of people in lots of 'hoods are similar challenged by 10-15 minute walk to nearest subway.

how about some comment, which most of the new red hook yuppie class (not puttign you there) don't pay attention to (wouldn't be nice for property values) like the fact of garbage x-fer station at court & lorraine? how about all the park MUNCIPAL SOLID WASTE trucks from lorraine to water, court to clinton? walking a little more might be a decent way to buffer the dissipation we all suffer from the evil environmental shit down there (not to mention fucking parking lot cum Hamilton Ave/BQE).

ikea bought their support among a few people in the houses-- wisely, it must be said-- but anyoen doubting their bullshit intentions needs to learn where they first wanted to be & why it didn't happen. hint: it's where lowe's is now.

in any case, re: transportation, fuck it. by far the bulk of low-middle income folk live in the houses and they ARE not in any way too far to get jobs. you ever think of all the mexicans coming in from coney on the f-train each morning? doesn't seem to stop them.

the trolleys WOULD be cool but the city's not interested. more cars, more trucks & no smoking please, goddamnit.

hb

don't forget about the b77 from 10th/5thave in the...

2006-06-05T13:46:00.000-04:00

don't forget about the b77 from 10th/5thave in the slope to van brunt

Trolleys would be cute, but more as a novelty / bo...

2006-06-05T13:11:00.000-04:00

Trolleys would be cute, but more as a novelty / bonus for Fairway. Before throwing money at the trolleys it is better to figure out what you'd want the transport solution to do. Do you just want to shuttle shoppers from Carroll Gardens to Fairway, or do you want to link Red Hook with the rest of the city's public transportation grid? If you want to link RH with the rest of the city, why?

For my money, I'd like to see RH linked up in such a way as to give middle to low income RH'ers access to public transport in such a way as to get access to the job market in Manhattan and downtown Brooklyn. The easiest way to do this is probably to use the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. For example, extend the B77 up Van Brunt and through the Tunnel in to Manhattan where it can link up with the subway system.

Alternatively, extend one of the lower Manhattan buslines through the Tunnel to Red Hook. As for a long-term solution, extend the G line south from Smith-9th St into Red Hook, loop it up to the area of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and extend it into Manhattan. The beauty of this is that it would give people access to Governer's Island via the subway. It would also make the Cruise terminal that much more access. Finally, since the City has control over that area of the port it would be relatively uncomplicated to build a station at Hamilton Ave and Van Brunt. I suspect Ikea and Fairway, not too mention Thor Equitities (who owns the old Sugar Refinery) could be talked into chipping in for a station on Beard. (Of course they'd want tax breaks...)