Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Slope's Cafe Eleven Space to Be Wine Bar, Neighbors Concerned

It seems like Cafe Eleven on Seventh Avenue (between 11th and 12th Streets) in Park Slope only closed a few weeks ago (and, in fact, it did), but the space already has a new tenant: it will be a wine bar operated by the owners of Big Nose, Full Body, across the street. A reader sent us the information about its new use and included a scan of the letter reproduced here, which is making the rounds in neighborhood.

Cafe Eleven Space

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19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't bother fighting. cb6 wil usher them right in.

9:33 AM  
Anonymous Wine-O said...

That wine bar crowd is a rowdy bunch... BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whino, the mature and sophisticated banter being parried to and fro through the evening hours in this most cultured nabe will be so welcome indeed! anyone who lives hear knows it doesn't take a bar full of drunken skin-heads to cause enough of an annoyance- just a mere bar full of drunken sophisticates with senstive palates who are in denial in homage to their fixations.

11:39 AM  
Blogger Richard Nickel, Jr. said...

I think the real question of importance here is:

Will they allow strollers?

12:41 PM  
Blogger Samo said...

I hope that 7th avenue turns into what 5th avenue used to be when grew up; unsafe, afraid to walk down, completely desolate. how about these people start fighting the noiseless bank branches that add absolutely nothing to the community and street life.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"can't we all just get along?"
rodney king

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Absolutely no competition on Montague St...if PoS does not want the winebar, we will gladly take it!

7:24 PM  
Blogger Craig said...

I've been in this situation when I was living above a wine bar/coffee shop in park slope. I ended up moving. Its a serious issue and anyone who pokes fun hasn't been faced with the problem.

The place i was above also had a garden which was open until 1am. Forget about leaving a window open at night. However you will know all the neighborhood gossip if you live nearby.

I went to a CB6 meeting too. It didn't produce any results. They try to balance the need of the business to the residents. I have the name of the person to contact. If you mail me I'll dig it out.

Amazingly while there are noise level limits that businesses must adhere too there isn't for outdoor spaces.

Good luck with meeting with the owners. Hopefully they'll be sympathetic.

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we live in New York City. new businesses are going to open...as are restaurants and bars. I live in Flatbush and I really wish that we had a wine bar in our area (let alone a good bar in general). We have enough problems where I live that I envy the problems of a bunch of uppity, rich, park slopians scared that a "wine bar" will hurt their hood...

11:19 PM  
Blogger anonymous said...

give me a break! i wish the owners of bnfb a lot of luck in this new endeavor and i, personally, a resident of 11th street, will be thrilled to have this wine bar in that space. stop whining and start wining!

8:29 AM  
Blogger Sarah said...

I don't really think they believe it will hurt their area they just want it somewhere else. Kinda lame. Dont live so close to a busy commercial street if you want to avoid noise.

8:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how about you bar aficianados go live somewhere in manhattan. we know how much you hate kids and quiet, leafy residential streets and must have your amenities like a bar. i'm not rich either- i must have just gotten here before you (20 yrs. ago). i totally agree montague and flatbush are more appropriate. so take your single downtown lifestyle and move. i'll continue to enjoy my wine w/ friends at our homes. you need a scene there are lots of places to go. why not give us something useful?

9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big Nose Fully Body is by far my favorite wine shop in the area, and the owners are super friendly and helpful. I hope the owners, neighbors and CB6 can find a solution that will let these owners open their bar.

11:08 AM  
Blogger meredith said...

Bring it on! I'd love to have a wine bar in this neck of the wood. And, the letter says the bar will be open until 1 and have outdoor space, but doesn't indicate that the garden would be open til 1. Seems to be an easy enough issue to resolve, and I would give the owners the benefit of the doubt as to being good neighbors, since people will harrass them constantly at the store if the bar is problematic. Not good for business.

11:55 AM  
Anonymous Tomonymous said...

@anonynous(11:08) I totally agree. BNFB is a great wine shop and the guys who work there are friendly, helpful and are not pretentious. I'm sure they will try to be respectful to their neighbors and will bring another great spot to the south slope. Everyone needs to calm down

7:01 AM  
Anonymous Jenny said...

Hello...welcome to urban living, where bars, restaurants and other gathering places are generally not only allowed, but encouraged, because people here appreciate the opportunity to get together with friends and enjoy conversation and a good glass of wine. If the aforementioned does not describe you, please pack up your families and move to the Midwest, where they roll up the streets at dusk and people get drunk alone in their dens.

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SOMETHING has to be done about these evil wine bars! Think of the children!

But seriously, get a life you fucking whiners! The self-entitlement of you people never ceases to amaze me anymore. Who the fuck are you to tell someone they can't open a legal business? If they are doing something illegal or disruptive after they open... that's when you have a right to deal with. Otherwise, if you don't like the hassles of living in the biggest city in the world, then good riddance. Move to the suburbs...
I'd like to buy your house...

1:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7th Avenue is a commercial zone. We knew that when we moved in. I'm thrilled that the owners of the amazing BNFB are opening a wine bar. It is exactly the kind of fun, friendly, community-minded local business that makes a neighborhood great. The complainers should realize how good they have it - they own property in Park Slope! - and know that it will fine. We too have windows that face popular 7th Ave restaurants, and it is simply not a big deal. If you want more quiet than that, move to the suburbs.

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know the people at BNFB. They are neighborhood residents and small business owners who thoughtfully elected to open businesses in Park Slope. It is a shame not support those who create a more attractive community (and higher real estate prices for you property owners). Let's wait to see the plans for the wine bar and not just assume it will be a nuisance. Knowing these folks, I imagine they have (and will) take the neighbors into consideration.

Hope to see you all three soon!

4:35 PM  

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